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after claiming viktry in his first debate with president obama. let's bring in jim acosta. >> after a couple of days of positive reviews, mitt romney is running into political news that may be blunting some of that momentum. the jobs report is taking away a key line of attack for the gop contender for months. romney has said the president has failed to bring the nation's unemployment rate below 8% but romney found a new way to crunch numbers here in virginia. >> campaigning in virginia coal country, mitt romney tried to dig through the latest jobs number to make the case president obama has not pit pay dirt just yet. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month. and the unemployment rate has come down very slowly, but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> still, one of romney's key metrics on the president's handling of the economy went up in smoke, when the nation's unemployment rate dipped below 8%. >> 8% une
after claiming viktry in his first debate with president obama. let's bring in jim acosta. >> after a couple of days of positive reviews, mitt romney is running into political news that may be blunting some of that momentum. the jobs report is taking away a key line of attack for the gop contender for months. romney has said the president has failed to bring the nation's unemployment rate below 8% but romney found a new way to crunch numbers here in virginia. >> campaigning in...
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he's advertising for the obama campaign. >> you know what, maybe president obama needs to change debate partners. maybe he needs to go practice with bill clinton. john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's be
he's advertising for the obama campaign. >> you know what, maybe president obama needs to change debate partners. maybe he needs to go practice with bill clinton. john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >>...
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i saw the debate where he said i want to spend $716 billion more than ryan, more than obama. and what we're hearing from romney is you're trying to cut $716 billion. no, what he's saying is we're going to do the same thing ryan has proposed which we're going to not increase by $716 billion the medicare, we're going to pay the same rates as the states, 45 states pay a medicaid rate for reimbursement lower than medicare. so he said we're going to spend $716 billion more than your plan, obama. and by the way, we're going to spend $2 trillion more on defense. so far romney's saying we're going to spend more than democrats. >> and no revenue. >> let me tell you how we know he's secure with his debate. debate night he talked about romney care, the plan he passed in massachusetts and the next day he went to sea pack and got a hero's welcome. guys, the base is okay. >> the counties in this country with the highest percent of medicare recipient are republican counties. of the 47% he talks about, romney will get half of them. >> 47% don't know they're in that 47%. >> they don't identif
i saw the debate where he said i want to spend $716 billion more than ryan, more than obama. and what we're hearing from romney is you're trying to cut $716 billion. no, what he's saying is we're going to do the same thing ryan has proposed which we're going to not increase by $716 billion the medicare, we're going to pay the same rates as the states, 45 states pay a medicaid rate for reimbursement lower than medicare. so he said we're going to spend $716 billion more than your plan, obama. and...
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gloria, how damaging was this debate to president obama last night? >> i think we have to let the polls come in. and we'll let the voters decide. but i think you saw from the way the president was behaving on the stump this morning that even he knows that this was a pretty damaging debate for him. look, mitt romney showed up as somebody who was reasonable, as somebody who criticized the president while being respectful of the president. and as somebody those independent voters, those undecided voters, those persuadable voters could take a look at and say, you know, i could see him as a plausible president. just by being there mitt romney was elevated to the level of the president. and he effectively i would have to say took charge of the debate. and the president just sort of did not really push him or force him or challenge him the way we just saw on the stump right now. >> i was pretty surprised by that myself. >> yeah. >> so what's the major lessons the president should be learning from his performance last night? >> well, i think the lesson is tha
gloria, how damaging was this debate to president obama last night? >> i think we have to let the polls come in. and we'll let the voters decide. but i think you saw from the way the president was behaving on the stump this morning that even he knows that this was a pretty damaging debate for him. look, mitt romney showed up as somebody who was reasonable, as somebody who criticized the president while being respectful of the president. and as somebody those independent voters, those...
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both president obama and governor romney are seasoned debaters, and experts say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us, when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. joining us now to talk about the moments and debate magic yet to come, republican consultant romney 2008 campaign advisor, alex castellanos and donna brazile. a lot of folks are saying these debates are do or die for romney. donna, do you agree? >> absolutely. first impression is very, very important. mitt romney had several opportunities to change the trajectory of the campaign, his selection of a running mate, paul ryan, got a small bounce. the convention speech didn't get any bounce, and now the first debate. this is like the first night on broadway. there will be more voters tuning in, they will be looking at his performance and if he comes across as somebody who is credible, who is up to the task, he might get another bounce out of it. >> aren't undecided voters the least likely to tune into the debates? gallup looked back at records and found o
both president obama and governor romney are seasoned debaters, and experts say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us, when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. joining us now to talk about the moments and debate magic yet to come, republican consultant romney 2008 campaign advisor, alex castellanos and donna brazile. a lot of folks are saying these debates are do or die for romney. donna, do you agree? >>...
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a presidential debate. >> what is president obama's biggest strength, congressman? >> he's got that big smile. but other than that, look, he's a very charming person. there's a reason why he became the president of the united states. but it's going to be a good debate. >> what are you worried about, bill, the most as far as president obama is concerned? >> well, as you know, i worked for president obama for a long time. and i love the guy. but he does have this reputation for sometimes speaking in paragraphs and not in sound bites. in this kind of venue, sound bites are the thing that's important. so i think that any obama supporter who really loves the president is a little worried that maybe sometimes he may speak longer than the evening news and the morning news the next day is able to cover in full. >> as someone who's moderated four debates with him can testify to that. congressman, to you, what's the biggest weakness governor romney has. i've moderated four debates with him as well. >> there's so much material to attack the president on -- >> no. not the presi
a presidential debate. >> what is president obama's biggest strength, congressman? >> he's got that big smile. but other than that, look, he's a very charming person. there's a reason why he became the president of the united states. but it's going to be a good debate. >> what are you worried about, bill, the most as far as president obama is concerned? >> well, as you know, i worked for president obama for a long time. and i love the guy. but he does have this...
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president obama is a great debater. the way i recall it, brooke, in the last presidential campaign, debates were not president obama's strengths. in fact, he's a much better speechmaker than he is a debater. and don't forget, he hasn't debated an awful lot lately. when the president of the united states and you're in the oval office, people tend not to debate with you an awful lot. you live in the presidential bubble. he hasn't been on stage with other people challenging him. so in a way, he sort of has got to get used to this routine over and over again, where as mitt romney has been on a debate stage an awful lot of times. >> if i recall, you were in a lot of those debates, he's tough, he's no wallflower that mitt romney. what is his biggest challenge, though? going into wednesday? >> the biggest challenge, i think mitt romney has got to do a couple of things. they're at odds with each other. first thing goehe's got to do i take on president obama directly when it comes to policy. what he has to tell the voters is i'v
president obama is a great debater. the way i recall it, brooke, in the last presidential campaign, debates were not president obama's strengths. in fact, he's a much better speechmaker than he is a debater. and don't forget, he hasn't debated an awful lot lately. when the president of the united states and you're in the oval office, people tend not to debate with you an awful lot. you live in the presidential bubble. he hasn't been on stage with other people challenging him. so in a way, he...
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we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. >>> welcome back to debate night in america. there you s
we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my...
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both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the president's economic views and vision and program than romney. so he has lost the one advantage that he once had. secondly, there were a lot of independent, undecided voters in 1980 who had lost faith in carter and were just waiting to see if they could feel confidence in his challenger. there are so few independent voters. this is an election that's about mobilizing the bases. so going after the independent voter is not a big surprise. having said all that in the memo put out by david axelrod -- >> who is who? >> he's the campaign guru on the obama side. >>
both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the...
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we heard a lot of the expectations romney suggesting that obama is the greatest debater, obama is saying romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned upside down on thursday morning. >> wow. what a bold prediction that is by the republican governor of new jersey. what do you think? >> god bless him. you know, everybody has to spin -- as -- spin doctors, we lie for a living. we really ramp up the lies the week of the debate. you pretend -- barack obama is not very smart, not a very good debater. baloney. i like fact the governor, he is stating the obvious which is true. that it is a narrow race but there is a solid but narrow lead for the president. it means this is at least one, maybe one of the last, very big moments that mitt romney can change that. i
we heard a lot of the expectations romney suggesting that obama is the greatest debater, obama is saying romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned...
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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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>> bret: president obama and congressman paul ryan talking about the upcoming debate. just down the road in denver on wednesday. let's talk about that and some of the issues on the table. bring in the panel from washington. rick klein, senior washington editor for abc news. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, you heard the back and forth on the sunday shows. what about the setup to this debate? what needs to happen and what is being talked about? >> it looks ridiculous. each side is pretending that the other can't even speak english. obviously, i don't think it will have any effect. romney did do rather well in his debate. he got better. he's done a lot of them, but people are saying well, obama hand debated in all this time. obama is really good. he did come out of nowhere. he beat the clinton machine. he did it in part in his debate, oratory. he will be strong. his one weak point is he is thin skinned. you o the press conference. if romney can manage to get under his skin in some way, that happened in 2008.
>> bret: president obama and congressman paul ryan talking about the upcoming debate. just down the road in denver on wednesday. let's talk about that and some of the issues on the table. bring in the panel from washington. rick klein, senior washington editor for abc news. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, you heard the back and forth on the sunday shows. what about the setup to this debate? what needs to happen and what is...
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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a big n
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with...
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the romney ryan ticket turns to the debates to try to narrow the gap against president obama. with 37 days until the election, we go on the campaign trail with paul ryan. >> this is a high stakes election. we will give the country a very clear choice. >> chris: and we sit down for an exclusive interview in which we discuss the economy, the new focus on national security and growing criticism of the rney mpmpgngn ululyayaonly on "fox newew susuay th, we will preview wednesday's first obama/romney debate and ask our sunday panel what each candidate needs to do to win the first face-off. and our power player of the week has spent almost half his life telling the inside story of how a president rose and fell from power. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. with just five weeks until election day and new polls showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last best chance to turn this race around. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face off against obama
the romney ryan ticket turns to the debates to try to narrow the gap against president obama. with 37 days until the election, we go on the campaign trail with paul ryan. >> this is a high stakes election. we will give the country a very clear choice. >> chris: and we sit down for an exclusive interview in which we discuss the economy, the new focus on national security and growing criticism of the rney mpmpgngn ululyayaonly on "fox newew susuay th, we will preview wednesday's...
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barack obama and the liberals already have. >> reporter: fresh ammunition for tomorrow night's debate at an event earlier today in charlotte, north carolina, wolf, biden said how can the romney campaign justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried -- in his words, buried, the last four years. paul ryan at a campaign event in iowa just a few moments ago seized on those comments and said vice president biden said that the middle class has been buried. we agree. he goes onto say that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states, wolf. i have a strg sense this will be brought up at tomorrow night's debate, wolf. >> we'll have a lot more on what joe biden has just said and the very tough reaction coming in from the romney campaign. gloria borger is standing by on that front. both of these campaigns are bringing major surrogates to denver to appear in the so-called spin room after the debate tomorrow night. what are you learning about the romney campaign's people who are coming in? >> reporter: wolf, it's probably no surpris
barack obama and the liberals already have. >> reporter: fresh ammunition for tomorrow night's debate at an event earlier today in charlotte, north carolina, wolf, biden said how can the romney campaign justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried -- in his words, buried, the last four years. paul ryan at a campaign event in iowa just a few moments ago seized on those comments and said vice president biden said that the middle class has been buried. we agree. he goes...
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when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening becaus
when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a...
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preparing for tomorrow's first debate. president obama is at a resort near las vegas. he took a break from debate prep yesterday to meet with campaign workers in nevada. he brought pizzas and made a few phone calls to supporters. during one call he told a volunteer. they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >>republican candidate mitt romney is already in denver. he spoke at a campaign rally last night. telling supporters the debates won't be about winning and losing. romney said it will be a chance for the candidates to describe the "pathway" on which they'd like to take the country. in addition to the three presidential debates, there will also be a vice presidential debate. >>a judge in pennsylvania ruled today that a new voter i-d law cannot be enforced in next month's presidential election. ritics say it is designed to keep minority voters. who typically vote democrat. away from the polls. supporters say it will prevent voter fraud. the ruling is expected to be appealed. >>it's the world's largest coral reef eco-system
preparing for tomorrow's first debate. president obama is at a resort near las vegas. he took a break from debate prep yesterday to meet with campaign workers in nevada. he brought pizzas and made a few phone calls to supporters. during one call he told a volunteer. they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >>republican candidate mitt romney is already in denver. he spoke at a campaign rally last night. telling supporters the debates won't be...
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he's playing the role of president obama in these mock debates and done this for republicans in the past cycles. on the other side, senator john kerry of massachusetts, playing the role of fellow massachusetts mitt romney and john kerry knows a bit about debating, the democrats' 2004 nominee. and mitt romney goes to colorado monday and the debate is wednesday. besides the preparation, we're seeing both campaigns trying to low low expectations. not just campaigns, listen to governor romney. >> he's president of the united states and an eloquent speaker. >> he's a very eloquent speaker and in his debate last time with senator mccain, he'll be very eloquent. >> reporter: the whole idea is lower the bar and if you're doing well you beat expectations and win the debate, the spin they're playing. listen to stephanie from the obama campaign. >> what history tells us that challengers normally win the first debate just by the fact they're standing on the stage with the president. that elevates them and normally come into this as underdogs. we're coming into this very realistic mitt romney is like
he's playing the role of president obama in these mock debates and done this for republicans in the past cycles. on the other side, senator john kerry of massachusetts, playing the role of fellow massachusetts mitt romney and john kerry knows a bit about debating, the democrats' 2004 nominee. and mitt romney goes to colorado monday and the debate is wednesday. besides the preparation, we're seeing both campaigns trying to low low expectations. not just campaigns, listen to governor romney....
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a whopping 67% think mitt romney won the debate. 25% for president obama. there's a long way to go in this debate and the divide between left and right is growing. that brings me to tonight's battleground america. the debate you have been waiting for. jennifer granholm versus newt gingrich. she's the former governor of michigan. he's of course, the former presidential candidate and speaker of the house. just as in last night's debate, we are running a clock at the bottom of your screen to keep track of speaking time for our debaters although frankly, i want a real debate. if you two decide to go at each other, chew each other to pieces, that's fine with me. we'll forget all about the clock. if i want to interrupt and pick you up on any inconsistencies in your arguments, i will be piling in with impunity also ignoring the clock. so the clock really is just a visual tool to amuse viewers at home. welcome to you both. let me start with you, jennifer granholm. the opening question is what the hell was wrong with barack obama last night? >> well, i'm going to qu
a whopping 67% think mitt romney won the debate. 25% for president obama. there's a long way to go in this debate and the divide between left and right is growing. that brings me to tonight's battleground america. the debate you have been waiting for. jennifer granholm versus newt gingrich. she's the former governor of michigan. he's of course, the former presidential candidate and speaker of the house. just as in last night's debate, we are running a clock at the bottom of your screen to keep...
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this debate will tell me a lot about mitt romney and obama. >>reporter: the romney campaign may not want to hear that, he saw the video of the 47 percent, but obama may not want to hear the voter said he would still give mitt romney a chance despite the video but he has to hear what he would do to help the unemployed in the big debate tomorrow night. mitt romney has a chance to reach out to the undecided voters. they are listening carefully. >>trace: mitt romney today making what appears for be a new pitch at spanish voters in the swing state of colorado. governor romney said that he would honor work visas that certain young illegal immigrants obligated through an executive order by president obama. you will recall that the governor has taken an aggressive stand on immigration in this campaign. in fact, he said he would actually veto legislation that provided a path to citizen to some immigrants. governor romney said and i quote, "the people who received the special visa the president has put if place which is a two-year vision 10 should expec
this debate will tell me a lot about mitt romney and obama. >>reporter: the romney campaign may not want to hear that, he saw the video of the 47 percent, but obama may not want to hear the voter said he would still give mitt romney a chance despite the video but he has to hear what he would do to help the unemployed in the big debate tomorrow night. mitt romney has a chance to reach out to the undecided voters. they are listening carefully. >>trace: mitt romney today making what...
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obama seemed passive, detached, and glum. but what's more significant than how romney said things is what he said. romney repeatedly insisted he was not advocating a big tax cut. in fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years romney has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. romney said he would eliminate deductions and cut spending to pay for it. he never offers details. he did say he would cut funding for public broadcasting which was 0.01% of federal spending in 2012. medicaid was 0.13%. romney also spoke in favor of regulations including much of the dodd/frank bill and he repeatedly held up as a model his health care plan in massachusetts which has added center the individual mandate and on which obama care is based. romney's transformation did not happen overnight. the candidate has been reworking his stump speech. in a very smart analysis, npr pointed out
obama seemed passive, detached, and glum. but what's more significant than how romney said things is what he said. romney repeatedly insisted he was not advocating a big tax cut. in fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years romney has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. romney said he would eliminate deductions and...
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do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no record to defend. and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because mitt was, i think, very legitimately attacking his record, whether it be the $90 billion in subsidies for energy or a number of the other things that -- the failure of dodd/frank, and so the president had a record to defend this time. but, one, do not underestimate the president of the united states. he will come back strong. i think mitt has to be prepared for that. and also, as you mentioned, these job numbers will give him a bit of -- or something of a boost today. >> we've got the vp debate coming up. you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that
do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no record to defend. and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because...